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How can we extend wireless signal to expand wireless network between two buildings?

what will be the best strategy for this solution? ----> Number of Floors2 on each building --->Number of Nodes are200 --->100 nodes on each building

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Question ajoutée par Syed Waqar Ali Shah , Researcher , Muslim Hands UK
Date de publication: 2013/07/08
Mohamed Ramy Tmar
par Mohamed Ramy Tmar , Primavera P6 Planner , Jacobs engineering

The classical solution for such setting is to lay a cable to the15' away window.
Install in the Windows a Wireless Router configured as an Access Point with High gain Antenna directed toward the destination building.
If it works you are done, otherwise you will have to install a second Wireless Router in a facing Window at the Home.
Configure it as a Wireless Bridge and feed it with a cable into the house.
------------------ The probability that one device configure as an extender will solve the problem is low.
If opt to try, given the high price of the device make sure that you can return it with minimal lose if it does not provide fast stable solution.

Mostafa Khamies Dakam
par Mostafa Khamies Dakam , Network Specialist , Libyan Fertilizer Company

It depends on the distance between the two buldings, for small distance less than1km a "5dbi" Antenna can fit, for large distance you can chhose a a bigger directional Antenna.

I recommend TP-LINK, its good in terms of efficacy and price.

Muhammad Irfan Khan
par Muhammad Irfan Khan , Manager Operations , TEDS Nx Gen IT Solutions

Dear Shah G,

Solution is very simple but I want to know that what type of clients access wireless services and type of covered area in which you use the services and building type. for my recommendation, you can follow the below mention steps.

For Building1:

-Indoor Access Points

-Network Switchs/Hubs

-One Outdoor wireless bridge

-UTP/STP Cable

 

For Building2:

-Indoor Access Points

-Network Switchs/Hubs

-One Outdoor wireless bridge

-UTP/STP Cable

 

You can connect both building using Outdoor bridges and connect their ethernet to network switch/hub. Now you can use Indoor access points for your internal wireless clients. Using this wireless scenrio you can get more bandwidth and uninterruptable connectivity to your wireless clients. One thing keep it in mind that all access points are connected with switchs/Hubs.

Ihab El Mortada
par Ihab El Mortada , Commercial Coordinator , Barker Langham

If you currently have an existing wireless network and are unhappy with the range that you are getting, or just want to go further than here are some tips of what you can do to boost the range of your own wireless network, and create a Wireless Bridge between two remote locations.
Before you proceed, remember that wireless is a two way system, both the access Point and Client.
Devices must be communicating at an equal level before a wireless connection can occur.
Transmit Power, Receive Sensitivity and antenna Gain Explained.
Transmit Power The power usually expressed in mW or db (1) that the wireless device transmits at.
Most Linksys, Dlink and other indoor, home based access points use a32mW transmit power.
This is one of the main reasons signal strength is limited when using these devices.
Receive Sensitivity The level of signal the wireless device needs to receive in order to make a connection.
Most wireless devices require a stronger signal to pick up a connection at11Mbps than one at1Mbps.
The higher the receive sensitivity of a client card, or an access point, the better quality signal it will pick up, and the easier it will be for you to send or receive a signal at farther distances.
Antenna Gain Although antennas don't increase the transmit power, they will increase the signal strength, and focus the signal depending on what type of high gain antenna you use.
So instead of the stock antenna transmitting in every direction, high gain antennas will focus the signal usually either more horizontally/vertically or in one particular direction.
This gain is measured in decibels.
Basically the higher the gain antenna, the farther it will transmit.
Also the higher the gain antenna, the shorter, or narrower the radiation pattern will be.
Noise Level This is the strength of the background noise that the wireless device is picking up.
With no noise, you will show a -100db.
Signal to Noise Ratio This is the difference between the strength of the background noise and the strength of the signal.
If the noise is greater than the signal, then no signal will be picked up.
If the noise is only just less than the signal then there will be lots of lost packets.
The greater the difference in SNR, the stronger your signal will be.
When you connect a high gain antenna onto a wireless device, the antenna gain acts on both the transmit power and receive sensitivity, so you are not only sending your signal further (in a more focused direction), but you’re also able to listen to weaker signals.
Please note that the maximum ERP allowed by the FCC is36dbm, or4 Watts.
Upgrade the Wi-Fi Antennas on the Wireless Router or Access Point.
If you have one of the many types of Linksys, D-Link, Netgear, Cisco, Proxim, or Belkin Wireless Routers, then you have the ability to upgrade both of the antenna that are come stock on the device to a stronger gain antenna.
Depending on what you are communicating to wirelessly, how far away the device is, and the construction of your home or office will determine the antennas that will be right for you.
Please contact us for more information.
- Extending the range of your LAPTOP (PCMCIA card) This is usually the first problem when it comes to poor performing wireless network.
Upgrading the antennas on a router while still using an old or underachieving PCMCIA card in your laptop will not get you better range.
ALWAYS upgrade the laptop, or desktop card FIRST, before upgrading the antennas on your router.
If you are using a laptop with the built in Centrino wireless technology, while convenient, this internal wireless card does not get very good distance when trying to connect to a Wireless Access Point more than50 feet away.
Upgrade to a better PCMCIA card, like the ZyXel B-101, or Proxim OGOLD, and you will see a difference right away.
If you are using a laptop to access the internet or other files wirelessly, and are not getting the desired range, or just want to go further with it, then you will need a PCMCIA card with a upgradeable antenna option.
We recommend that you upgrade to a ZyXel B-101 card.
This PCMCIA card has a great Receive Sensitivity and also has a connector on it which allows for the addition of an external antenna.
- Extend the Wireless range of your DESKTOP.
(PCI Card) When using a desktop to communicate wirelessly, you have many options of what to use to extend the range of the wireless signal.
You can use a Client device, such as a Linksys WET11 or WET54G.
You can use a USB adapter, which is easy to install, but does not offer much range.
You can also use a PCI card, which you must install inside the computer, but usually has a removable antenna that you can upgrade.
Such a device is the Linksys WMP11, WMP54G, D-Link DWL-G520 or the ZyXel G-300.
These devices can adapt to an external antenna and are great for extending the range of your wireless network.
The problem with using a PCI card is that usually the card sits behind the computer, and the computer is behind the desk.
This means that the wireless signal has to work twice as hard to communicate with the wireless access point.
The solution is to purchase a small external antenna, which you can place on top of the desk or bookcase, and get the antenna out from behind the computer.
We recommend the D-link DWL-M60 for this application..
- Extend your wireless network to your friends and neighbors.
If you have a high speed connection, and a wireless router, you have a variety of choices as what to do with it.
You can roam the house with your laptop, share internet with your neighbors, and even set yourself up as a small Internet Service Provider, or WISP.
Sharing your internet connection with friends and family is easy as upgrading the antennas on your wireless Access Point, and telling your neighbors to do the same.
Although the type of antenna needed will be different in each application, you can check out some of the antennas used, by visiting our Wi-Fi Antenna page, or by contacting us, and letting us know what you’re trying to do.
We have been installing Wireless Hotspots in every type of application you can imagine, give us a call and see how we can help.
- Understanding Wireless Line-of-Sight Outdoor Wi-Fi Range: The range of a wireless link is dependent upon the maximum allowable path loss.
For outdoor links, you will get a strong signal as long as there is clear Line-of-Sight between the two antennas with sufficient clearance for the Fresnel zone.
For Line-of-Sight, you should be able to visibly see the remote locations antenna from the main site.
(Longer distances may require the use of binoculars).
There should be no obstructions between the antennas themselves.
This includes trees, buildings, hills, concrete, steel, power lines, or a drastic change in elevation, etc.
As the distance extends beyond six miles, the curve of the earth (commonly called earth bulge) affects installation, requiring antennas to be placed at higher elevations.
Use the24dBi grid antennas for distance this far.
Please contact us to discuss your Wireless Bridge, as there are variables dependent on transmitting a strong signal.
- Point-to-Point Wireless Bridge and Point-to-Multipoint Bridging: What is Point-to-Point? When connecting two points together (Referred to as a Wireless Bridge), the distance, obstructions, and antenna height as well as location must be considered.
If the antennas can be mounted indoors and the distance is not far (several hundred feet), the standard dipole or upgraded7dBi Omni-directional may be used.
An alternative is to use two patch antennas for your Wireless Point-to-Point Bridge Kit.
GNS Communications offers complete Wireless Bridges that include everything you need to wirelessly connect your two locations safely and securely.
For longer distances (1/4 mile or more), directional, high-gain antennas must be used.
These antennas should be installed as high as possible, and above obstructions such as trees, buildings, and so on.
These antennas should be pointed at each other, as much as possible.
With a line-of-site configuration, distances of up to25 miles at both2.4 GHz and5 GHz can be reached using24dBi grid antennas, or Motorola Canopy.
Contact us for more info.
With the use of directional antennas, fewer interference possibilities exist and there is less possibility of causing interference to anyone else.
What is Point to-Multi-point Bridging? In this case (in which a single point is communicating to several remote points), the use of an Omni-directional antenna at the main base station point must be used.
The remote sites can use a directional antenna that is directed at the main point antenna.
If the multiple distances range farther than1000 feet, multiple sector antennas should be used at the base station point.
These antennas range anywhere, from60 degrees to180 degrees of coverage.
Using a Sector Antenna for the main location of your Point to Multi-point Wireless Bridge Kit will give you the best signal strength to all locations.
- Line-of-Sight | near Line-of-Sight | Non Line-of-Sight: Each Wireless Bridge Kit requires Line-of-Sight between the two locations unless otherwise specified.
For Non Line-of-Sight Wireless Bridge Kits, please look at Part# GNS-1428, or contact us to discuss in further detail your particular situation.
If your two locations are completely obstructed by trees, you may also be interested in our900MHz point to point solution, part number GNS-1130.
View Details by clicking here.
Non Line-of-Sight Wireless Bridge Kits use Multi-Path antenna designs which allow the signal to be received in a multi-path instead of just vertical or horizontal.
Please view the images below as example of different LOS issues.
You can also use the900MHz, as mentioned above, which have tree penetration ability, as the lower frequency can penetrate the trees much more effectively than the2.4GHz, or5.8Ghz.
Line-of-Sight means that at each location in your Wireless Bridge, the antenna that is mounted will be able to see the opposite antenna clearly, with no obstructions.
Even the slightest tree branch moving in the wind can cause dropouts in the wireless connection.
Choose a Wireless Bridge Kit that has directional antennas, and a high gain antenna that meets your needs.
For good throughput, look for a wireless radio that has low latency, and good receive sensitivity, combined with enough transmit power to connect your two buildings.
Near Line-of-Sight Wireless Connections will have minimum tree coverage in between the two locations of the Wireless Bridge.
You want to choose a Wireless Bridge Kit that has a high gain antenna, or even move to a Non Line of Sight Wireless Bridge, to connect your two locations.
When you are attempting to connect two locations together wirelessly, and have a few trees in between, you can sometimes use a better quality2.4GHz radio to connect the two buildings, as a radio with good receive sensitivity will give you a solid connection.
Some obstructions that will decrease the wireless signal are as follows: Electrical Power Lines2.4GHz portable phones Microwaves Wire Mesh walls Metal Rooftops Trees Buildings Tinted, Metallic Glass Other2.4GHz Wireless Networks Difference in Elevation from Pt.
to Pt.
Other Geographic Conditions If your Wireless Bridge has is completed obstructed between the two points, and has No Line of Sight, then you want to purchase a NLOS Bridge Kit, or move to a different frequency such as a5GHz Bridge Kit.
Please contact us to discuss your situation further, as there are many variables to consider when selecting a Non Line-of-Sight Wireless Bridge Kit.

Ricky Asuncion
par Ricky Asuncion , Network Support/Administrator , Ministry of Defense and Aviation

Install wireless extender in your Main building which you have the network.
And also, install the same device (wireless extender)in the second building which you want to spread the signal from the Main building..
configure your device2 as bridge to forward the wireless signal from the main building.
I will recommend Bufallo AirStation™ HighPower N450 Gigabit DD-WRT Wireless Router.

abdur rasheed
par abdur rasheed , Network Administrator , Warid Telecom (Al-Khalej Telecom)

we should deploy the wireless switch at every floor for effective links

Umer Shafique Satti
par Umer Shafique Satti , Assistant Manager Nerworks / Engineering Supervisor , National Telecommunication Corporation

You can do wireless bridging among APs or you can extend on basis on ethernet between two APs.
Wireless Bridging is supported by all the major vendors of wireless like DLINK, TPLINK, CISCO etc

Mohd Khaja Sanaur Rahman
par Mohd Khaja Sanaur Rahman , Executive-BIC , Beam Telecom Pvt. Ltd

Extend/replace the capacity of the wireless device which has more speed bandwidth

Subhi Mahdi Adhobaibi
par Subhi Mahdi Adhobaibi , Electronics Engineer, Radio Transmission Engineer , Yemen Radio & TV Corporation

:Increase the power of antenna
2- the type of antenna choose directive antenna

Tonic on the building, the first signal and the pickup signal on the second building

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